From the article: “The web belongs to people, not companies. This world view that Steve gave a glimpse into betrays their thinking: it’s out-of-date, corporate-controlled, duopoly-oriented, not-the-web thinking. And it’s not good for the web.”[...] Thanks to breaknenter for providing this nice story on Digg (more than 1349 Diggs).
What other user say about this:
treestman: Apple handed Mozille a golden opportunity to tout how great Firefox is, and instead they post pseudo-political nonsense. They blew it:Mozilla can’t sell Firefox
Sosumii: For crying out loud people, Steve presented this at an Apple Developers Conference. I don’t think he was serious about taking all of Firefox’s marketshare, rather, he was just “preaching to the choir”, so to say.
horvatic: I think who ever wrote this story needs to chill out. Over analizing the release of Safari like Darth Vader just took control is a bit much if you ask me. The one thing that Apple does better than any company is listen to its users and what they want and how to make things easier and more fun to use. What you are describing in this story about corporate controlled is Microsoft. Microsoft does what it wants, not what the people ask for. Microsoft makes its software the way they want, not what the user would feel easier to use. Microsoft wants you to do it there way, not your way. That is corporate controlled and Microsoft and Bill Gates are the ones you should fear with your dark side corporate controlled story. A good example of Microsofts acts is there threats at open source communitiy against Linux. Microsoft is your corporate controlled monster, not Apple and not Steve Jobs. Open up your eyes, take off that blind fold.
greenmountain: udahlen, Jobs entire shtick is as carefully choreographed,planned and rehearsed as any elaborate stage presentation. Overlooked? You are being far too kind, sir.
Jobs wants nothing to do with open and interoperable.
iTunes for Linux? Mass storage enabled iPods? OSX for the PC? DivX on Apple TV?
Right. Just give Apple the credit card number.
I do not see how there can be any doubt in anyone’s mind about this right now.
There it was, in color and slickly presented, Stevie’s vision of a future, Free From Free Software, free from Firefox.
See right here on the nice pie chart, you guys are gone.
Isn’t that nice?
Hey Firefox, hey all you FLOSS warriors:
“Fuck You”,
sincerely, Steve.I hope hackers kick that gadget’s ass
as fast as they ripped that crap TV box.
But, that would make the pos actually worth something, increasing demand. So the hell with it, leave it alone, stay the course, let the suckers drop their cash.
But reading about some clever kid getting skype to work on the iPhone would be very fun, indeed.
UbuntuX: Question please dont dig this down.
Will Firefox support the web2.0 apps scripted for safari or would you require platform plugins to make Safari the exclusive browser for the IPHONE?
The reason is that I am a MacUser @ home and do not use Safari at all. I cannot do my banking with it, I cannot access our counties online services dbases with and therefore I use FF. I belieview honestly that FF is quite the superior browser availible for Mac today. At work i use a PC with IE 6 and also an extra at home PC with IE 7, and I have no issues with MS like alot of people.
My PRimary computing interest is the BROWSER and the EMAIL. Platform is not relevant to me. On whatever wherever is my motto. Thats why I am thinking that if Safari is hardwired to the IPHONE then its a pity because that connection is NOT in my frame of reference.
udahlen: I reacted to the slide when I saw the presentation. But I think it may be an overreaction to say that Apple wants to see a future with only IE and Safari. It may just be an oversight on Apples part in preparing the slides.
handbiter: A short story to illustrate why Safari sucks:
I run twenty applications at a time, including Photoshop, iTunes, Word, Quicktime, movie editing software, you name it… but whenever I launch Safari, within five minutes the damn computer starts buzzing like there’s a fly trapped in the case. I know. This sounds nuts. But I swear to whatever you fucking please that it makes my CPU (or something on the motherboard) buzz.
My hardware is a Powerbook G4.
If they can’t come up with a browser that doesn’t drive their own limited line of hardware batshit, how are they supposed to adapt it to another platform?
jasonpoon: I think Apple doesn’t really mean to ignore other web browser.
A graph like that just means…they really dream big.
I love my Safari on my Mac. Firefox is great but it’s just not Mac enough.
I keep telling my PC friends switch to Firefox (maybe Safari when it is more stable)
cthellis: Methinks he doth protest too much, considering Jobs does quite a lot (and more visibly) to promote open standards (or at least not see everything default to Microsoft tech), and Safari was very much into supporting those web standards properly. (I forget about ACID1, but they were the first to complete the ACID2 test.)
He’s attaching way too much of “whatever interpretation he feels like assigning” to it.
Just keep making Firefox better, and I’ll keep using it. Took a while to draw me away from Opera, after all. Safari will pull me away only if it fits my browsing needs better than the others.
hunchback: Off topic, I’m using Safari more now, exploring its features and I’m starting to like this, I’m getting used to the font smoothing too! Ok so its still a little slow. Overall better than IE but not Firefox, it does make Firefox seem a little clumsy to be honest, but still not beating it.
Pliep: The author does not understand that the slide that displays just Safari and MSIE is a simplified image. Just like the first slide. Steve just wanted to show the growth he’d like to see for Safari in an easy to understand image. And just like FireFox wants to gain marketshare, Apple wants to gain marketshare. What’s wrong with that?
randytuggle: I tried Safari on Windows just yesterday. I found it to be disappointing. It was slow, feature-less when compared to Firefox, and even IE6 does a better job in regard to speed. I have been prediciting that Apple, Inc. has “jumped the shark” with the changing of the Apple name and their disregard to effectively market their computers and operating system - in lieu of cheaply made hand-held electronics. Give Apple 5-7 years and we won’t hear Steve Jobs making keynotes. He’ll be working for Microsoft. That may be a stretch, but I’m hitting something here. If Apple would effectively market their computers for REAL FEATURES instead of bashing what the consumer proudly uses as it is, they would have already had a better market share with Safari! Stupid fuckers….
eyreka: Personally I’d prefer to use Safari on my Mac but I’ve installed some non-standard hardware and ever since Safari has been crash prone while, for the most part, FF is fairly stable — though I do occasionally see some weird behaviour. If I were running a Windows box I’d welcome Safari. It’s standards compliant, fast and isn’t bloated.
jdgold: Am I the only one who thinks that the pie chart is being taken a little bit out of context. I seriously doubt Jobs was trying to suggest that there should only be two browsers in the world. I am fairly confident that he was just trying to get a laugh (which he did) by displaying it that way…
drizzo91: has Jobs lost his mind?
Safari is a decent browser, i have had many experiences with it and all of them have been pleasant, and when it is released on Linux, i could see myself using it often, but it is absurd to think that IE and Safari could be the only two browsers on the web. In a world with only two notable browsers, viruses and other harmful things to your computer would be alot more frequent, because there are only two sets of weaknesses to exploit. with multiple browsers out there, it is harder for hackers to affect the masses because of the variations flaws and weaknesses of each browser. I do not understand why Jobs would even want to put internet users through such a torture.
