Analysts say Apple’s newest desktops are drawing interest from enterprises as well as consumers. While Apple hopes its revamped iMac desktop line will continue to grow the company’s consumer computer business, it may be indirectly making inroads into the enterprise space.[...] Thanks to zaibatsu for providing this nice story on Digg (more than 876Diggs).
What other users say about this:
caponumen: In a word, BULLSHIT!
Verugan: I run an IT dept that supports approx. 500 computers in a mixed Mac/PC environment. Mac’s are about 20% of our environment and as long as they aren’t broken they’re fine. They seem to have the strangest problems that take much longer to fix. I can’t count the number of hours I’ve spent on font activation problems, when compared to fonts on Windows, it’s a joke. Also, warranty repair is a huge pain. Our Dell’s get next day on site support where the Macs take 4-6 weeks to ship in for repair (even going through Mac store).
protogenxl: Okay guys you have convinced me. I will start converting my company to macs just as soon as I can get a legal copy OS X server installed on my blade center. Oh wait that will never happen, My blade center is made by IBM and not Apple.
udahlen: IT departments today are much too often run by stupid people. I was an IT Manager back in the 90’s and I saw the “I can click on an icon in Windows so I must be very smart” crowd take over IT. I had no problem integrating Windows with multiple Unix variants, but the stupid people insisted on “Windows only” solutions, for no other reason than that they didn’t understand anything else.
philipwen: The #1 reason why Apple won’t be successful in the enterprise space yet:
Quote from the article:
“It’s not something Apple has said it is pursuing,” Shim said.
Steve hasn’t made an effort in crafting a strategy in this arena yet. The current strategy is pretty half-azzed IMO, it’ll only work for the die hard fans and the serious MS haters who aren’t comfortable with Linux for whatever reason.
Yes, minds may be opening on the possibility of an alternative enterprise desktop other than Windows, but glorifying iMacs as a strong candidate is plain sensational journalism.
Philip – http://philipwen.wordpress.com
Focher: The main reason why using iMacs for hardware makes sense is standardization. Fact is, it is often impossible to get any of the major PC vendors to sell you a global model of a machine with exactly the same configuration. And when they do offer such a model, the manufacturing life cycle tends to be short.
It seems that iMacs with Windows installed instead of OS X (based on the reality of most enterprises, definitely not because it’s a better OS) is a great option for multinational companies with a desire for standardization.
Plus, there are a lot of companies that do care about image. I work for a very large brand focused company and the organization would like everything to be “cool”. The physical design of an iMac sure offers that feature better than any other computer model.
varun21: I’m into IT of a software corp. C++ programming, regression tests, running simulations and emulating are the core jobs. a varied hardware environment is typical of us as we build software for many platforms. But not many corps are using Macs and thus software demand for Macs is little or none.
But this is forseeing and migrating into the future. Moving away from workstations, everything will be online, data, collaboration, surfing. May be even processing. so we are actually looking into a future that (maybe) will have synray-thinclients like consoles and a few central servers to integrate the environment in the not too distant future. OS and hardware will be minimal. You’d need a barebones machines able to boot into a powerful standard compliant browser to run it all.
But Mac is a treat though.
Schelske: Lots of great opinions. Can’t say what works for everyone, only what works for us. Our company switched to all macs three years ago. Our repair costs went down. Our down-time went down. Our replacement cost per year went down because we were replacing less stuff. In the end, we cut our IT department in half. I think we saved enough money from that annually to more than cover the more expensive hardware costs.
jabberwolf: These articles are annoying at best.
The people writing the articles had no net admin experience and at best only know how to share directory and printers.
They know nothing about management of computers, rollouts, or distributing MSI packages across an enterprise.
There is no comprehension of the apps that DO NOT run on MACS, the backend that will probably still be running MS active directory and not Apple’s open directory.
There is no ROI that makes sense about buying more expensive machines, buying OSX, buying parallels, and then runing XP anyway on top of it.
WTF are the mactards snorting?!?!
bugalou: I get the feeling half the comments are coming from people that have zero experience in a true enterprise environment. I am not talking ma and pa operations, but a huge company with thousands of computers. Just about every major 3rd party enterprise level software binds with AD in one way or another. The fact that Apple refuses to robustly code in AD integration will keep them from going anywhere in enterprise environments. Also the fact that they are rather a pain to work on vs a PC and the lack of true enterprise support is a deal breaker for me. The techs on my staff can call Dell, have a new mobo and hard drive overnighted and slap it in the next day without any tools (Dell business line PCs are all modularized). You simply cannot do that with a Mac. Labor is your cost killer in any business environment, and you are at least tripling your IT labor in that task alone.
And from personal experience, we have a handful of Macs in our marketing offices and while the users love them, they are really really cumbersome to work on from an IT admin/operations perspective. Remote administration is clunky to non-existent. Integrating them into a Windows based infrastructure is a royal pain in the ass. Not to mention there is zero mac support and options for large business targeted software packages, with the exception of Adobe.
Evildudetx: Apple had their chance years ago and messed it up bigtime. Microsoft and IBM were basically handed the corporate market. Apple would have to get all their ducks in a row with true enterprise management tools, lower costs, and convince thousands of software vendors to start porting applications before any corporation would seriously look at this as an option.
RoyHobbs: Last time I checked “analysts” don’t know shit!
bonedog73: I didnt know Apple made computers for enterprise organizations or software for that matter.. I think they are just for regular consumers.
futuretheory: Whatever. I love Apple, I love my macs, but I gotta say that without an honest to goodness mid-range mac with modest expansion options (read half sized pro machine), enterprise customers will never engage Apple in larger numbers. The iMac is really cool, but as far as expenditures go, you can keep an LCD monitor on active duty twice as long as a CPU. Not to mention it’s awfully nice to drop in an expansion card for various reasons without having to buy an expensive (and huge) pro tower. My tower is AWESOME, but I can’t afford, nor do I need, to put that in front of all my employees and the iMac doesn’t cut it. Then there’s the fact that my business would be stuck with one hardware option too. Waiting for the day that I can buy OS X Intel and install it anywhere.
netsql: The iMac monitor is the worst.