Why Can’t I Access AT&T WiFi With My iPhone?

There’s one thing about being an AT&T Wireless customer that I just really don’t understand, and that is why my AT&T membership doesn’t give me automatic access to all of their WiFi hot spots?[...] Thanks to bobnease for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

bill.clark: Look, get over it. You overpaid for a piece of shit phone. Why does that make you think you’re entitled to free access to AT&T’s WiFi network? Everyone else has to pay for it, so suck it up and quit your bitching.

And don’t even start with the “iPhone is the greatest thing in the world” bullshit either. Any phone that requires you to rely on “hackers” to open it up and make it do something that every other cell phone on the market can isn’t an amazing, next-generation product…it’s another locked down piece of shit Apple product.

yoshitx: Why cant I have ATT&T transatlantic fiber service with my iPhone subscription?

rockets: Did Steve tell you that you could do that? No? Then shut up and keep listening to the iPod.

Thuktun: Careful not to talk down AT&T if you’re a customer. They might suspend your service.

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/29/10 …

slipdisc2: Its really simple, you got to pay to play.

blahblah blah, gimme gimme gimme. Get real dude. No one is going to (give) you anything.

jdrift: That sounds like a criticism to me…How long will it take until Att (aka the Death Star) finds out who you are via. ip and terminates your contract…

craigfis: Because you aren’t paying them for WiFi access!

MasteRR: “Why Can’t I Access AT&T WiFi With My iPhone?” Because AT&T has bent you, your parents, and your parent’s parents over the counter for years. What would make you think that will change now?

artifishall: this aggravated me at the Seattle airport last month. Its free to jump on if you have a dsl line at home (which has a much smaller bill) but not my iPhone.

TheIguana: *sarcasm* Giving out free wifi could result in the complete failure of AT&T’s western network… Kind of like third party applications.

trouble916: I do think part of the reason is that AT&T Wireless is still a different company that AT&T WiFi or whoever is running that part of things. A&TW is still largely Cingular.

It would be nice for them to bundle them some way or another. Of course, an iPhone with a free unlimited WiFi and open software is dangerously close to being a VoIP phone and reducing your need for a big (money making) cellular calling plan.

jdwaters: my experience… as a general rule, if it doesn’t say FREE Wi-Fi…. it isn’t.

Yankees368: I have a Sprint Mogul and also am not able to use Sprint wi-fi where ever it is actually available. But here is a workaround for me:

Just use the Mogul as a modem for my laptop and cruise the internet at 1 mbps down

mconwell: I am an ATT DSL subscriber and can access ATT WiFi hotspots from my iPhone. All it takes is a simple web page login with your DSL account credentials.

kungfoolou: You get access to their hotspots if you have a broadband account, not a wireless account. Yes, why not cell customers as well? Who knows? But it’s still separate companies under the same brand right now. AT&T spins off the wireless division, which later is sold to Cingular who is then bought by a company named AT&T, but was actually the former SBC companies. Who in turn were baby bells, all part of the original Bell Telephone Company. Who Bellsouth was one of. And who in turn was brought back into the AT&T mix by the same former-SBC-former-baby-bell organization.

Really? I’m surprised they integrated customer databases, at least from an external POV this quickly. Stopr griping, it’ Ma Bell. Take what you can get or find some one else.

Unbricked iPhones Now Fully Working, Calls Included

Today we have discovered that you can send and receive calls, SMS and mails too, as well as surf the Web with it.[...] Thanks to lisapham for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

akatsuki: Isn’t it time for openfirmware for the iPhone? It is better looking than that OpenMoko thing anyway.

kineticarl: Let the unwavering love resume. We shall not speak of this incident again.

anarchy99: “Directv testing was like that too but now Directv has won, They got locked down their access card tight, they’re also coming out with new cards like every month”
thats because we stopped trying
take a look at dish and bev, when its working you can have both the Canadian and american dishes at the same time if you have all the need equiptment
plus direct has less of movies and such but more sports.
dish channels wise rules then add bev and FTA its obvious why directv “testing” died

zongamin: Are people unlocking there phones just for the hell of it? Surely you still have to pay your AT&T contract - so why no use it? Are you paying for 2 line rentals and just not using one?

bobnease: I’m interested in how Apple will respond to this… I’m happy with my unlocked iPhone, but I’m also happily watching as everybody else pushes the limits. I figure the harder the iPhone Dev Team works, the more likely we will be to see Apple put more native Apps on iPhone, and hopefully open up to 3rd Party Developers. Only time will be the tell…

zdiggler: some what like PSP homebrew dev’s and Directv Testers,
PSP sort of still work like same position as iPhones and their hackers.

Directv testing was like that too but now Directv has won, They got locked down their access card tight, they’re also coming out with new cards like every month

seek205: To bad you have to buy a turbosim to make it work…

jakbrud: Dugg for calling the apple store to prove it

betojf: Ramzi hacked it!

jthomp: Told you.

petrax: In the legal view the iPhone is subsidized as Apple is receiving monetary considerations from AT&T for all iPhones activated. As a purchaser of an iPhone you accept the this exclusivity and the terms of all the contracts implied and written. Apple and AT&T have made every required legal disclosure and then some on the fact that a 2 year AT&T contract is required with the purchase of an iPhone.
As far as ringtones go, My mother-in-law sees it differently based on the cell carriers and recording industries past standard practices. Apple’s deal with the recording industry is somewhat unprecedented as the cost is only .99 cents, you get to make it yourself and you can keep it as long as you like. The Industry standard is two to three times that price, you take what they give you and it expires after 30 to 120 days or you have to pay for it again. Ringtones and full music tracks have been considered different products by both the cell carriers and the recording industry from the inception to use parts of a song as ringtones. Because of this fair use does not apply in the case of using part of a music track as a ringtone. Don’t blame Apple, blame the music industry and the cell carries for creating the hole in fair use by treating ringtones from music tracks as a product.

AndrewWiggin: Do you have to pay for this to work?
I don’t have an iPhone yet so I’m not familiar with all the different unlocking services.

petrax: I know this is an unpopular but, companies and individuals selling or giving away tools to unlock or open the iPhone to other carriers and third party software are in the strictest terms breaking the law. Using these products is also in violation of the iPhones Software License Agreement. While Apple has not yet gone after anyone legally and they may never choose to do that, the option is still open.
The iPhone is a subsidized phone, when you purchase it and open the box you are agreeing to an a 2 year contract with AT&T, If you do not sign-up and activate the iPhone with AT&T you can still be held liable for the full cost of the AT&T 2 year contract, at some point AT&T might choose to track and enforce that part of the contract. If you go into a Sprint.Nextel store and buy a HTC Mogul for $299.99 took it out of the store and unlocked it to use it with T Mobile would you expect to be charged the full cost of the 3 year Sprint/Nextel contract? If not, how come? The retail price of the HTC Mogul phone is $549.99 if you were to purchase one that is not subsidized. The iPhone is an AT&T subsidized phone, Apple receives monetary compensation form AT&T for the exclusive rights to provide services to all iPhones Apple sells in the US. Apple has used the subsidy in 2 ways. 1. They negotiated a better rate on full unlimited data plans for their iPhone customers (don’t believe me compare the AT&T iPhone plans with the same AT&T rates with any other subsidized smart phone. 2. Apple is receiving monetary subsidy payments from AT&T.
So, you think well I went into the Apple Store or Ordered it directly from Apple so the iPhone is not subsidized so I should be free to do with it what I want. Not so fast, Apple wanted the user experience of buying the iPhone to remain within it’s control, and the understood that if you had to go to AT&T to buy your phone and have it activated in the store AT&T store would not be able to handle the volume and the store would stop promoting this overwhelming burden that the iPhone would be come.
Hacked iPhones aside, the iPhone is the easiest and most pleasant cell phone to buy and get activated on the market. You walk into an Apple or AT&T store you buy the phone and you walk out, at home you plug-in the iPhone to your computer open iTunes fill in some info and submit it in the privacy and comfort of your own home and with-in a few minutes you have an activated ready to use iPhone (and you could do it in your underwear if you wanted to), any other phone you answer endless questions you pay your money and you wait around the store for them to activate your phone (15 to 45 minutes in some cases).
So keep this in mind while you bitch about Apple Bricking your iPhone, You knowingly bought an AT&T subsidized iPhone you hacked and unlocked it to use it on another carries network so you in reality you are using a phone you will not fully own until you’ve fulfilled your 2 year obligation to AT&T, so your basically stole the subsidized iPhone and said well it’s my phone and I can do with what I want too and AT&T that owns part of my phone can just piss off..

obeygiant: um. i may be crazy, but all of this ‘work’ to just use a damn phone is seeming to be a bit kind of crazy now… (after the 15th update, i’ve had enough)

i’ll just stick with my at&t iphone.

a phone is something i use quite frequently, so i wouldn’t want to take a chance to have a brick in my pocket….

am i crazy or do other people feel the same way?

scottix: Yes the iPhone is be littled by not allowing third party apps…one of the main reasons I don’t have one. The other is that it doesn’t have 3G which is lame.

First Look: Mailplane – A desktop Gmail client for OS X

Mailplane aims to provide the best of both worlds for users of the popular web-based email service Gmail, plus some clever new features that aren’t found anywhere else. Mailplane will be released in the coming weeks – here’s our first look.[...] Thanks to obeezy for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

KingLeo: I use Gmail with Mail and it works perfectly. I can drag and drop attachments, etc. Plus, I have 2 Gmail accounts so I keep them all in one place.

jonbon: Can’t say I see much use for this application personally.

The only feature I want out of a Gmail application is the ability to view my email offline, and this fails to do that.

gmprunner: I believe GMail is also compatible with the Mail app included with OS X. But that’s just me…

basye: I’ve used this app for 4 months now, but am about to delete it. It’s not worth $25 for something that only does mail, when there are plenty of other gmail extensions on FF for FREE.

rpgmaker: This app is plain stupid and useless. I think that the whole offline email client thing is stupid in this days too.

vault: How is this app different than just opening gmail in safari? I don’t really care about drag/drop attachments, so what else does it add, just the multiple accounts thing?

iPhone Downgrade Baby! Go from 1.1.1 to 1.0.2!

Just what the title says. Looks like all that complaining might be for nothing! Take that Apple![...] Thanks to tony.pitale for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

Moviespo: This feature lasted 5 days! Just today my iphone went bonkers. I went from 1.0.2 then to 1.1.1 then back to 1.0.2 after 5 days of enjoying the third party, on the first day my mail app disappeared… It was there but could not see it..after ssh into phone and purging everything in the mail.app folder it was restored.

Today my photos disappeared and when plugging the phone into itunes it came up with a max space of 250 megs storage and 55 available..Instead of reading the 8 gigs of max space..

Had to do a bootie call..After the restore..all is good but somethings not 100% with this hack but well worth the trip
All in all, I’ll just restore if it happens again..Nothing beats the apptap..

Anyone else have this problem?

kiddx: By the time everyone gets all this worked out and the screaming and hacking and firmware and everything a competitor will make a phone just as good or better than the iphone and will be available

caponumen: Meanwhile the rest of the world could care less……..

pengas: burn fanboys, and as of apple, well mr. jobs, u will not see a cent out of me nor any of my clients and as far as i am concerned, even if u came and kissed my bottoms, i will not give u another chance.

hasta la pasta biaatch

AzMegladon: you macboys r just sad.

aristotle0dude: The unlock tools are modifying system level files. The way the hacking tools are modifying the system could be causing the firmware update to fail to complete successfully.

There are several possibilities:
1. Jailbreak could be setting the permissions or ownership incorrectly.
2. Jailbreak modifies files which causes a CRC+version check to fail in the firmware update to fail part of the way through.

If some of the files were not updated during the update, an incompatibility between the flash rom and one of those file could result in an unbootable system.

It is possible that Apple built a check for modifications to a particular file that these hacking tools do not modify to determine whether to start the update process to support multiple branches of code internally.

luet: “After downgrading your iPhone will most likely not work as a phone.”

so… then it’s basically an iPod touch. Then why buy a fucking iPhone for this stuff?

stormbreaker: Or you could just not upgrade in the first place…

herval: the best thing is seeing the morons on the forum criticizing the guy for telling everybody he made it, and then claiming that ‘everybody knew it’ in the end…

MrViklund: Dugg down because of iPhone hack.

nick1000: Anybody tried this on an iBrick….. http://developer.ribbitphone.com/
Can someone make VOIP calls using this?

dgtldre: Guys, you should research more into this method and not only read the headlines..From my understanding, If you have a valid ATT SIM card and are a legit ATT account holder/cutomer your phone WILL work (making phone calls). For those that are wanting to use it as an unlocked phone with a differerent carrier, I belive that’s where the mix reports are coming in about the phone part not working.

frunch217: Nice! Fuck Apple!

SirZRX: mouses and pirates…always win!

insomniac8400: So what happens when someone can’t call 911 on ther iphone after updating? Is jobs going to jail?

How to Unbrick a Bricked Unlocked iPhone: the JesusPhone Walks Again

Here’s a very easy method to defeat Apple and bring your bricked unlocked iPhone back from death. If you have an unlocked iPhone and you updated to firmware 1.1.1, you now can revive and bring all your third-party applications back by following these steps to restore firmware 1.0.2. This has been confirmed by the Dev Team, we are testing now live.[...] Thanks to yokozuka for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

returnofthemac: it’s good to see the same comments here as on every other post about 1.1.1 in the past 2+ weeks. What a bunch of pretentious asshats.

bluenash: maybe apple should take a page from google’s playbook: “Do no evil”

Blade2000: Suckers! Now you have to “downgrade” and lose some new features and patches/bug fixes. Why bother if you will not have the newest release?

insomniac8400: At least all of this proves apple purposely screwed the phones in software and that the locks weren’t accidental. I find it interesting that they are inviting a class action against them that if they lose affirms consumer rights, and if they win screws consumers over big time. No verdict will be good for apple.

genexyzration: Don’t downgrade. Upgrade is the way to go. Upgrade to your attorney telling that the recent update rendered your iphone useless when you needed it most. When it failed it resulted to: death, injury, pain, divorce, loss of money, repossessed house/car/truck, loss your girlfriend,accident on the road, unable to call police in an emergency. You pay for the service and you expect their service.

thequixotic: I know hacking the iPhone is jolly exciting, but it is called the i PHONE for a reason…
It’s like collecting your car from the garage and the guy saying “well, we still can’t get the engine working, but the radio and air-con are perfect!”

oosnoopy: The phone doesn’t work.

Yay for an overpriced function lacking PDA?

toetagger: I’m sorry… I’m really trying to give a shit about this but I just don’t.

jnadke: Hackers 1, Apple/AT&T 0

Come’on, you know Apple probably could’ve implemented the patch without messing with the EFI… they did it intentionally…

toetagger: Too soon to celebrate…

casual7y: I am so glad i’m too poor to have bought an iphone now haha

nave7693: Is this just me or does it really sound exactly like the whole affair with the PSP?

deVida: And in three days, the Jesus Phone rose again!

1ofMany: Isn’t it ironic that Steve Jobs was once a big time phone hacker (back in his college days) and is now out to punish the people that have hacked his phone…

shortarabguy: For a product that was touted as so user-friendly and easy to use, this sure does look like a bitch to get working.

iPhone 1.1.1 “bug” unleashes music over Bluetooth

The iPhone 1.1.1 update has a hidden little surprise for y’all: Bluetooth audio streaming is now available off of your iPhone for whatever you darn please, meaning you can finally listen to music from the phone wirelessly.[...] Thanks to FameMoney for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

SquidProQuo: Any idea if the IPod Touch is going to get the same treatment? Or does it have Bluetoooth in it at all?

xandifenn: perfect for the iphone music app
http://seeqpod.com/iphone

llsethj: AOLEngadget are fuckers. They cut and paste an Apple insider story and publish it as their own then submit it to Digg.

kelchm: I don’t know that unleashes is exactly the right word to describe mono bluetooth audio.

kmotiv1: 1.1.1 fixed my screen “polka dots”. Everybody is bitching about all the things it locked down, but it definitely fixed a few items as well. I’m surprised that no one else mentioned this at all. We’re a bunch of whiny bastards.

pileofstraw: personally, I’ve never seen nor touch a iphone yet and for some reason, I’ll stick with my pager.

SirZRX: the iphone bluetooth chipset supports A2DP, but is capped by software…what a shame

p51d007: LMAO……….wait until apple and steve “blow” jobs pushes out another patch to take that away…..THEN charge you to
put it back in. Love him or hate him…he’s smart when it comes to marketing. Hell, he should have been a crack dealer.
GIVE it away to get you dumbasses hooked, then take it away and charge you out the ass for it.

colonels1020: Apple: “That’s not a bug, it’s a feature.”

GREEDOnvrFIRED: For crying out loud why do we constantly have to hear about the freaking iPhone. Oh because it is a compelling, ever changing piece of amazing technology that remains interesting even 3 months after its introduction? oh ok.

seahaven: this iphone story is disturbing me, we dont have it yet here in our country and it is always on digg….

fuxjoey: I thought bluetooth is not built-in. So how is it possible?

daxsymbiont: who fucking cares about iphone. a fucking 100 dollar motorola or nokia can play mp3s.

zmigliozzi: And everyone laughed at the zune for sharing music over bluetooth.

mikesbaker: wow apple finally got something you can do with most other new phones

Man has iMac replaced three times, emails Steve Jobs and gets a free iPod

He had his iMac replaced 2 and had a problem with the third. He decided to email Steve Jobs because of this and he gets a free iPod.[...] Thanks to muffinsincream for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

greenawlives: So how much was this blogger paid to write this “anecdote”?

idigit: God dammit, I had my iMac replaced twice (3 computers) and all I got was lip from the Apple support staff.

Oh well.

Bitaemo: Awwww, I wish my Macbook Pro would break so I can get a free Nano. Time to find Mr. Screwdriver!

bobnease: I love this! I’ve never had a bad experience with Apple Customer Service, and this tells me a lot about their company.

carl25: wait

so he didn’t get his imac back ?

chesss: Ahhh!
the joys being filthy rich..

StiGUP: “Seems Apple really does care about its customers a great deal. I think I’ve just fallen in love with a fruit ;).”

is he talking about the guy he talked to …or the apple itself?

jabberwolf: Anything to keep their small number of customers. Steve must be desperate.

mu0p: wait a minutes.

I have a $3000 dollar alienware paperweight that only lasted 1 year, and the company refused to upgrade my warranty when i called 2 days after my previous warrenty ended. How would I get the contact of the Head of Alienware to discuss my matters?

hayden.evans: ive gone through 3 iphones and ive gotten jack crap

qpdb: What was wrong with his imac?

sixlaneve: Can I have Jobs email? My iBook was replaced 4 times… I want a free iPod too!

vacuum2440: i’ve always had a great experience with apple…they have the best customer care and thats why their customers are so loyal. If I were to start a business I would try to emulate their business strategy in terms of customer service completely. Btw I’m from Canada so yea they still care about their customers from the North.

TunaFishGangsta: FYI, the “Steve Jobs’ email account” is monitored by a high-level customer support staff. That would be cool though if he was personally responding to people.

betojf: whatever, Apple screws ipod customers…. specially those that bought games

Note to Apple: Stop thinking Like a Phone Company

Steve Jobs might be better served here to take his own advice and think different. Because, as he has so elegantly demonstrated with the iPhone, these devices are finally becoming little computers. So it shouldn’t be a surprise that consumers will expect them to act like computers. They will want to modify them to their exact, specifications.[...] Thanks to alberto24 for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

webmasterx: Well, as Tech Crunch said “That is why PC’s took over the world” History tends to repeat itself. Apple had everything in the 80’s to become today’s Microsoft but Steve Jobs miserably dropped the ball with his stubbornness. Microsoft copied what he was doing and took it to a whole new level. Do not be surprised if Microsoft comes up with an iphone equivalent shortly with more functionality and open to the world’s creativity to develop applications for.

jasorn: Er, Apple has ALWAYS thought like this. They’re even worse than MS when it comes to trying to control what they’re customers do with the thins they buy from them. Linux Baby!!

Windgat: I think you need to get over yourselves.

The iPhone is a device intended to be used as utility, intended by its designers. I take my hat off to Apple and Co for sticking it out for usability, innovation, and raising the bar on mobile devices - period.

While doing so, they are laying down the rules to do this in a protected and controllable environment. You’ve been warned not to mess with this device, now all the hackers are up in arms for being spanked by an upgrade.

Apple provides a great experience for the masses that do not want to hack, unlock, crack etc. I appreciate the fact that I can switch on all things Apple. It works. It is better designed, and it is user friendly (not necessarily hacker friendly).

Also, going up against the demi-gods of industry (Music and Telco) is not everyone’s cup of tea. I think Apple is doing a balancing act not because it chooses, but because it has to, to be allowed in the sandbox for a play.

So, suck it up. Enjoy what it has to offer, or get a Nokia and suffer the fate of having to deal with buggy, unfinished software (for years now)…

P.S. If you are upset about Apple making money, then get over that too. Buy some shares!!
Go Apple!

Windgat: I think you need to get over yourselves.

The iPhone is a device intended to be used as utility, intended by its designers. I take my hat off to Apple and Co for sticking it out for usability, innovation, and raising the bar on mobile devices - period.

While doing so, they are laying down the rules to do this in a protected and controllable environment. You’ve been warned not to mess with this device, now all the hackers are up in arms for being spanked by an upgrade.
Apple provides a great experience for the masses that do not want to hack, unlock, crack etc. I appreciate the fact that I can switch on all things Apple. It works. It is better designed, and it is user friendly (not necessarily hacker friendly).

Also, going up against the demi-gods of industry (Music and Telco) is not everyone’s cup of tea. I think Apple is doing a balancing act not because it chooses, but because it has to, to be allowed in the sandbox for a play.

So, suck it up. Enjoy what it has to offer, or get a Nokia and suffer the fate of having to deal with buggy, unfinished software (for years now)…

P.S. If you are upset about Apple making money, then get over that too. Buy some shares!!
Go Apple!

diggmediggyou: Oh! Only Nokia Communicator can call it Smartphone.

targetpro: word

genexyzration: Apple is issuing a recall of all broken iphones and will replace free of charge after signing an agreement not to sue apple over the updates that render the phone useless. (customer service advisory idea before its too late)

fragsta: Why do people keep sending “open letters” and “notes” to Apple giving business advice as if they’re some sort of marketing guru?

Ziziros: ya so im a big mac fan, but this is very true.
jobs has to look at the bigger picture - allow iphone users to do what they want, and the iphone will become much more popular.

Mizzike: lucky me, I don’t mind AT&T’s wireless service where I live and could care less about 3rd party apps for the most part. *yawn*

loudthing: 

nlevy: This is such a shame. It doesn’t make any sense.

nickpowers101: Steve Jobs: Please release the iPhone in Canada.

onemillion: what happened to teh apple we once knew that gave a shit about its customers?

jesusfish12: if Apple doesn’t abide by some of the “phone company” policies, what phone company will want to market/use their product? if apple doesn’t have a market for their product, how will they make money? drrt.

Survey: What do you think of the iPhone 1.1.1 Firmware?

What do you think of the iPhone 1.1.1 Firmware breaking 3rd party applications?[...] Thanks to enderiii for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

timgollin: only one question: how many customers did Apple make happier by locking out third party apps ?

batmant: where’s the option “I have 1.1.1 AND like third party apps so as long as they’re useful and don’t negatively effect the stability of the phone”.

I’m enjoying top tapping the home button and locked screen controls much more than a lights out game and spring board which made the phone less stable.

prediction: t-mobile customers and other crusaders for unlocking digg this comment into the ground.

AppleMacGenius: I like my 3rd-Party Apps, I’m not mad at Apple. We all knew Apple was not going to support the 3rd-party Apps but we hacked it anyway and now your mad Apple broke it.. come on. I am staying at 1.0.2, but if there is a way then I will update it to 1.1.1. The only thing I want is IM, IRC, and Navizon…. I use this all for work. I think Apple should open it up for 3rd party. Let Apple put their seal of approve on it first but at least offer it. Every other software developer does it, Palm, Microsoft, Symbian and even motorola with their java applets.

mechamat: Is it possible Apple is holding back on opening up the iPhone until after Leopard is launched? It’s is a scaled down version of an operating system which hasn’t been released, to protect certain features I would do the same. I bet you will see an “Appouncement” shortly after Leopard’s October release, just in time for the holiday season.

Moviespo: The kitchen was closed…Here is a solution to going back in time to when you were using 1.0.2

http://iphone.fiveforty.net/wiki/index.php/Downgra …

Let’s do the time warp again…

I worked for me…I don’t need the music store but it was fun and fast but nothing beats the third party apps…

I am back…

Thanks!

ALT1MATE: I just updated to 1.1.1 and lost my AppTapp functions. I thought that the increased receiver and speakerphone volume would be a good trade-off but ITS NOT! The increase in volume is barely noticeable. I would say it is still comparable to a Treo 700. DO NOT UPGRADE!

sjalloul: For all of your who are experiencing the same, unsettling pain and want to make a statement let’s all come together and dish our phones in front of an Apple store! As a small start-up company geared toward delivering application via the iPhone, I am saddened to see this happening and affecting our optimism as a company and our potential user base. I personally feel the only way the Apple and Steve jobs would get the message if we all join together, and set a date to dish our phones at APPLE STORES! I know this might be too much, but it’s the only way then waiting for a workaround or for the future of this device/platform to evolve much to our desire. So please DIGG this UP for the same cause and let’s make a strong stance.

sjalloul: For all of your who are experiencing the same, unsettling pain and want to make a statement let’s all come together and dish our phones in front of an Apple store! As a small start-up company geared toward delivering application via the iPhone, I am saddened to see this happening and affecting our optimism as a company and our potential user base. I personally feel the only way the Apple and Steve jobs would get the message if we all join together, and set a date to dish our phones at APPLE STORES! I know this might be too much, but it’s the only way then waiting for a workaround or for the future of this device/platform to evolve much to our desire. So please DIGG this UP for the same cause and let’s make a strong stance.

demesisx: I am boycotting apple’s products because of this. I was saving to edit my first feature film on a macbook pro, but now, I am going to go elsewhere with my business.

So much for positive PR stunts (Jobs giving money to those who bought the Newton years ago). I see his true colors….and they mainly consist of shades of green.

NeilAdmirari: Wrong market move. Availability of 3rd party apps is a major selling point for an average gadget user. I-don’t-care-what-as-long-it’s-Apple guys had already bought their iPhones. How do you sell next 10M iPhones, while outrunning the upcoming wave of iPhone clones? By letting everyone make iPhone ever better.
It’s PC with any software vs. Mac only with Mac-blessed software all over again, and we know how that one played out. Should have provided SDK and charged a minor license fee from developers. Happiness all around. It’s still not too late.
Customers knew what they were buying. However, Apple should be made aware that they fired yet another shot in their own foot.

echosierratwo: OORAH! thesledman. im with you brother. the bitching is driving me up the $#%^& wall. I had the hack installed but i wanted the iTunesMobile option so I bit the bullet and restored to 1.1.1. I can wait until nullriver updates the app. I will miss some of the very cool apps but i am not going to bitch and moan about it. Jesus, man up people.

iphoneguy2: Our users are feeling the pain! http://www.iphonecanada.net The firmware is hurting Canadians who REALLY want an iPhone

Ndric: Apple fans loves getting it up the arse.

And at the same time, paying a lot of $$$

handler: 1.1.1 will be hacked soon enough, don’t worry.
For all those bitching about this update, why did you update if you knew it would break 3rd party? I know I’m not updating.

londonista: It seems like history is repeating itself. The original Mac was a closed box — it was Gassee that persuaded Jobs to open it up for expansion as I recall. Jobs could pull the same stunt with the iPod as it was a mere appliance. iPhone on the other hand is a fully-fledged computer albeit in a small form factor — which is why so many people want third-party apps. What people probably don’t realise is that Jobs is petrified of security issues — his nighmare scenario would be a security vulnerability that compromises millions of iPhones that are connected to a wireless network. Now of course Java is supposed to run in a sandbox and hopefully prevent such issues — and is supported on a variety of mobile platforms, even old clunkers like Nokia’s S40. But Steve harbours antipathy towards Java — it certainly runs like a dog on my desktop Mac, so it clearly isn’t a priority for him. If Java isn’t an option, Jobs needs to offer the community some kind of SDK that allows people to install third-party apps and minimises vulnerabilities.

IPhone: Bring a Bricked iPhone to the Genius bar and Talk to the hand

LAWL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![...] Thanks to goplastic for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

LeeSoong: In Soviet Apple Retail - Steve Jobs Bricks YOU!

Snowrosered: Yea, this is so predictable. I can’t believe anyone would hack their phone and then download an update/ Not so savy, eh?
On the other hand, as cool as the iphone seems to be, I won’t buy any more apple equipment, having accumulated about $1000 of broken ipods that they refused to fix. Besides, I hate their f**ng arrogant ‘gurus’ and all the other sh**ty attitudes coming out of this corporate behemoth. Our friends in Washington look pretty PC by comparison now don’t they?

purdo: A question for the lawyers, what I’d like to know is this: if you buy an iPhone from the Apple store but don’t register with At&T and therefore don’t agree to their terms. Then unlock the phone to use it on any carrier do Apple have the “right” to re-lock the phone to only AT&T usage if I have never agreed to AT&T terms? and I know it violates the terms of the software, blah, blah, but do Apple have the RIGHT to dictate my service provider just because I bought the phone?

teaBagger: NO! APPLE R TEH HAXORS!

IchiroBoston: So if I do something to my iPhone outside of the normal operation Apple is still responsible for QC? stop whining… if you “hacked” it then it’s your own problem. If you don’t know how to fix it yourself then DON’T DO IT!

This is not an Apple only issue, if you hack anything made by anyone then take it back to them for repair what do you think will happen?

diggmediggyou: iPhone for me is look like a PDA phone, like the new look of Palm. Nothing so surprising me when i first played around with it.
Compare with the first impression with Nokia E90.

NewOntario: Who else besides me is continuing to thanks themselves for NOT buying an iPhone?

truegodofwar: buried. this video doesn’t play in gnash

genexyzration: Take note. Dont buy it. It breaks down within a month.

uroa: If Apple made cars they would be limited to 20mph.

RidiculousHat: Digg circa two months ago: Iphone is coming! I love apple!
Digg circa one month ago: Iphone price dropped! I hate apple!
Digg circa one month minus one day ago: Steve Jobs is giving us a coupon for the difference! I love apple!
Digg circa last week: Steve Jobs is fucking over our third party apps! I hate apple!

DeFex: OMG you bought an IKEA table and used candle holders and cutlery that were not from IKEA. what were you thinking. sorry your table warranty is VOID!

largobargo: Fuck apple.

themoosejuice: SMALL CLAIMS COURT

Watch how fast apple responds when you pay $20 to bring em to small claims court for $399. Just go to your local court and pick up the paperwork. Apple sold you a defective phone and refuses to fix it.

Another note: Imagine if Apple had the same policy on their macs? Sorry, you installed firefox. Your warranty is void. Whaaaaaa?

teaBagger: APPLE - pwnage of the fan boi since 1976