Why Can’t I Access AT&T WiFi With My iPhone?

September 30, 2007

bobneaseThere’s one thing about being an AT&T Wireless customer that I just really don’t understand, and that is why my AT&T membership doesn’t give me automatic access to all of their WiFi hot spots?[…] Thanks to bobnease for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

bill.clark: Look, get over it. You overpaid for a piece of shit phone. Why does that make you think you’re entitled to free access to AT&T’s WiFi network? Everyone else has to pay for it, so suck it up and quit your bitching.

And don’t even start with the “iPhone is the greatest thing in the world” bullshit either. Any phone that requires you to rely on “hackers” to open it up and make it do something that every other cell phone on the market can isn’t an amazing, next-generation product…it’s another locked down piece of shit Apple product.

yoshitx: Why cant I have ATT&T transatlantic fiber service with my iPhone subscription?

rockets: Did Steve tell you that you could do that? No? Then shut up and keep listening to the iPod.

Thuktun: Careful not to talk down AT&T if you’re a customer. They might suspend your service.

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/29/10 …

slipdisc2: Its really simple, you got to pay to play.

blahblah blah, gimme gimme gimme. Get real dude. No one is going to (give) you anything.

jdrift: That sounds like a criticism to me…How long will it take until Att (aka the Death Star) finds out who you are via. ip and terminates your contract…

craigfis: Because you aren’t paying them for WiFi access!

MasteRR: “Why Can’t I Access AT&T WiFi With My iPhone?” Because AT&T has bent you, your parents, and your parent’s parents over the counter for years. What would make you think that will change now?

artifishall: this aggravated me at the Seattle airport last month. Its free to jump on if you have a dsl line at home (which has a much smaller bill) but not my iPhone.

TheIguana: *sarcasm* Giving out free wifi could result in the complete failure of AT&T’s western network… Kind of like third party applications.

trouble916: I do think part of the reason is that AT&T Wireless is still a different company that AT&T WiFi or whoever is running that part of things. A&TW is still largely Cingular.

It would be nice for them to bundle them some way or another. Of course, an iPhone with a free unlimited WiFi and open software is dangerously close to being a VoIP phone and reducing your need for a big (money making) cellular calling plan.

jdwaters: my experience… as a general rule, if it doesn’t say FREE Wi-Fi…. it isn’t.

Yankees368: I have a Sprint Mogul and also am not able to use Sprint wi-fi where ever it is actually available. But here is a workaround for me:

Just use the Mogul as a modem for my laptop and cruise the internet at 1 mbps down

mconwell: I am an ATT DSL subscriber and can access ATT WiFi hotspots from my iPhone. All it takes is a simple web page login with your DSL account credentials.

kungfoolou: You get access to their hotspots if you have a broadband account, not a wireless account. Yes, why not cell customers as well? Who knows? But it’s still separate companies under the same brand right now. AT&T spins off the wireless division, which later is sold to Cingular who is then bought by a company named AT&T, but was actually the former SBC companies. Who in turn were baby bells, all part of the original Bell Telephone Company. Who Bellsouth was one of. And who in turn was brought back into the AT&T mix by the same former-SBC-former-baby-bell organization.

Really? I’m surprised they integrated customer databases, at least from an external POV this quickly. Stopr griping, it’ Ma Bell. Take what you can get or find some one else.


Unbricked iPhones Now Fully Working, Calls Included

September 30, 2007

lisaphamToday we have discovered that you can send and receive calls, SMS and mails too, as well as surf the Web with it.[…] Thanks to lisapham for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

akatsuki: Isn’t it time for openfirmware for the iPhone? It is better looking than that OpenMoko thing anyway.

kineticarl: Let the unwavering love resume. We shall not speak of this incident again.

anarchy99: “Directv testing was like that too but now Directv has won, They got locked down their access card tight, they’re also coming out with new cards like every month”
thats because we stopped trying
take a look at dish and bev, when its working you can have both the Canadian and american dishes at the same time if you have all the need equiptment
plus direct has less of movies and such but more sports.
dish channels wise rules then add bev and FTA its obvious why directv “testing” died

zongamin: Are people unlocking there phones just for the hell of it? Surely you still have to pay your AT&T contract – so why no use it? Are you paying for 2 line rentals and just not using one?

bobnease: I’m interested in how Apple will respond to this… I’m happy with my unlocked iPhone, but I’m also happily watching as everybody else pushes the limits. I figure the harder the iPhone Dev Team works, the more likely we will be to see Apple put more native Apps on iPhone, and hopefully open up to 3rd Party Developers. Only time will be the tell…

zdiggler: some what like PSP homebrew dev’s and Directv Testers,
PSP sort of still work like same position as iPhones and their hackers.

Directv testing was like that too but now Directv has won, They got locked down their access card tight, they’re also coming out with new cards like every month

seek205: To bad you have to buy a turbosim to make it work…

jakbrud: Dugg for calling the apple store to prove it

betojf: Ramzi hacked it!

jthomp: Told you.

petrax: In the legal view the iPhone is subsidized as Apple is receiving monetary considerations from AT&T for all iPhones activated. As a purchaser of an iPhone you accept the this exclusivity and the terms of all the contracts implied and written. Apple and AT&T have made every required legal disclosure and then some on the fact that a 2 year AT&T contract is required with the purchase of an iPhone.
As far as ringtones go, My mother-in-law sees it differently based on the cell carriers and recording industries past standard practices. Apple’s deal with the recording industry is somewhat unprecedented as the cost is only .99 cents, you get to make it yourself and you can keep it as long as you like. The Industry standard is two to three times that price, you take what they give you and it expires after 30 to 120 days or you have to pay for it again. Ringtones and full music tracks have been considered different products by both the cell carriers and the recording industry from the inception to use parts of a song as ringtones. Because of this fair use does not apply in the case of using part of a music track as a ringtone. Don’t blame Apple, blame the music industry and the cell carries for creating the hole in fair use by treating ringtones from music tracks as a product.

AndrewWiggin: Do you have to pay for this to work?
I don’t have an iPhone yet so I’m not familiar with all the different unlocking services.

petrax: I know this is an unpopular but, companies and individuals selling or giving away tools to unlock or open the iPhone to other carriers and third party software are in the strictest terms breaking the law. Using these products is also in violation of the iPhones Software License Agreement. While Apple has not yet gone after anyone legally and they may never choose to do that, the option is still open.
The iPhone is a subsidized phone, when you purchase it and open the box you are agreeing to an a 2 year contract with AT&T, If you do not sign-up and activate the iPhone with AT&T you can still be held liable for the full cost of the AT&T 2 year contract, at some point AT&T might choose to track and enforce that part of the contract. If you go into a Sprint.Nextel store and buy a HTC Mogul for $299.99 took it out of the store and unlocked it to use it with T Mobile would you expect to be charged the full cost of the 3 year Sprint/Nextel contract? If not, how come? The retail price of the HTC Mogul phone is $549.99 if you were to purchase one that is not subsidized. The iPhone is an AT&T subsidized phone, Apple receives monetary compensation form AT&T for the exclusive rights to provide services to all iPhones Apple sells in the US. Apple has used the subsidy in 2 ways. 1. They negotiated a better rate on full unlimited data plans for their iPhone customers (don’t believe me compare the AT&T iPhone plans with the same AT&T rates with any other subsidized smart phone. 2. Apple is receiving monetary subsidy payments from AT&T.
So, you think well I went into the Apple Store or Ordered it directly from Apple so the iPhone is not subsidized so I should be free to do with it what I want. Not so fast, Apple wanted the user experience of buying the iPhone to remain within it’s control, and the understood that if you had to go to AT&T to buy your phone and have it activated in the store AT&T store would not be able to handle the volume and the store would stop promoting this overwhelming burden that the iPhone would be come.
Hacked iPhones aside, the iPhone is the easiest and most pleasant cell phone to buy and get activated on the market. You walk into an Apple or AT&T store you buy the phone and you walk out, at home you plug-in the iPhone to your computer open iTunes fill in some info and submit it in the privacy and comfort of your own home and with-in a few minutes you have an activated ready to use iPhone (and you could do it in your underwear if you wanted to), any other phone you answer endless questions you pay your money and you wait around the store for them to activate your phone (15 to 45 minutes in some cases).
So keep this in mind while you bitch about Apple Bricking your iPhone, You knowingly bought an AT&T subsidized iPhone you hacked and unlocked it to use it on another carries network so you in reality you are using a phone you will not fully own until you’ve fulfilled your 2 year obligation to AT&T, so your basically stole the subsidized iPhone and said well it’s my phone and I can do with what I want too and AT&T that owns part of my phone can just piss off..

obeygiant: um. i may be crazy, but all of this ‘work’ to just use a damn phone is seeming to be a bit kind of crazy now… (after the 15th update, i’ve had enough)

i’ll just stick with my at&t iphone.

a phone is something i use quite frequently, so i wouldn’t want to take a chance to have a brick in my pocket….

am i crazy or do other people feel the same way?

scottix: Yes the iPhone is be littled by not allowing third party apps…one of the main reasons I don’t have one. The other is that it doesn’t have 3G which is lame.


First Look: Mailplane – A desktop Gmail client for OS X

September 30, 2007

obeezyMailplane aims to provide the best of both worlds for users of the popular web-based email service Gmail, plus some clever new features that aren’t found anywhere else. Mailplane will be released in the coming weeks – here’s our first look.[…] Thanks to obeezy for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

KingLeo: I use Gmail with Mail and it works perfectly. I can drag and drop attachments, etc. Plus, I have 2 Gmail accounts so I keep them all in one place.

jonbon: Can’t say I see much use for this application personally.

The only feature I want out of a Gmail application is the ability to view my email offline, and this fails to do that.

gmprunner: I believe GMail is also compatible with the Mail app included with OS X. But that’s just me…

basye: I’ve used this app for 4 months now, but am about to delete it. It’s not worth $25 for something that only does mail, when there are plenty of other gmail extensions on FF for FREE.

rpgmaker: This app is plain stupid and useless. I think that the whole offline email client thing is stupid in this days too.

vault: How is this app different than just opening gmail in safari? I don’t really care about drag/drop attachments, so what else does it add, just the multiple accounts thing?


iPhone Downgrade Baby! Go from 1.1.1 to 1.0.2!

September 30, 2007

tony.pitaleJust what the title says. Looks like all that complaining might be for nothing! Take that Apple![…] Thanks to tony.pitale for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

Moviespo: This feature lasted 5 days! Just today my iphone went bonkers. I went from 1.0.2 then to 1.1.1 then back to 1.0.2 after 5 days of enjoying the third party, on the first day my mail app disappeared… It was there but could not see it..after ssh into phone and purging everything in the mail.app folder it was restored.

Today my photos disappeared and when plugging the phone into itunes it came up with a max space of 250 megs storage and 55 available..Instead of reading the 8 gigs of max space..

Had to do a bootie call..After the restore..all is good but somethings not 100% with this hack but well worth the trip
All in all, I’ll just restore if it happens again..Nothing beats the apptap..

Anyone else have this problem?

kiddx: By the time everyone gets all this worked out and the screaming and hacking and firmware and everything a competitor will make a phone just as good or better than the iphone and will be available

caponumen: Meanwhile the rest of the world could care less……..

pengas: burn fanboys, and as of apple, well mr. jobs, u will not see a cent out of me nor any of my clients and as far as i am concerned, even if u came and kissed my bottoms, i will not give u another chance.

hasta la pasta biaatch

AzMegladon: you macboys r just sad.

aristotle0dude: The unlock tools are modifying system level files. The way the hacking tools are modifying the system could be causing the firmware update to fail to complete successfully.

There are several possibilities:
1. Jailbreak could be setting the permissions or ownership incorrectly.
2. Jailbreak modifies files which causes a CRC+version check to fail in the firmware update to fail part of the way through.

If some of the files were not updated during the update, an incompatibility between the flash rom and one of those file could result in an unbootable system.

It is possible that Apple built a check for modifications to a particular file that these hacking tools do not modify to determine whether to start the update process to support multiple branches of code internally.

luet: “After downgrading your iPhone will most likely not work as a phone.”

so… then it’s basically an iPod touch. Then why buy a fucking iPhone for this stuff?

stormbreaker: Or you could just not upgrade in the first place…

herval: the best thing is seeing the morons on the forum criticizing the guy for telling everybody he made it, and then claiming that ‘everybody knew it’ in the end…

MrViklund: Dugg down because of iPhone hack.

nick1000: Anybody tried this on an iBrick….. http://developer.ribbitphone.com/
Can someone make VOIP calls using this?

dgtldre: Guys, you should research more into this method and not only read the headlines..From my understanding, If you have a valid ATT SIM card and are a legit ATT account holder/cutomer your phone WILL work (making phone calls). For those that are wanting to use it as an unlocked phone with a differerent carrier, I belive that’s where the mix reports are coming in about the phone part not working.

frunch217: Nice! Fuck Apple!

SirZRX: mouses and pirates…always win!

insomniac8400: So what happens when someone can’t call 911 on ther iphone after updating? Is jobs going to jail?


How to Unbrick a Bricked Unlocked iPhone: the JesusPhone Walks Again

September 30, 2007

yokozukaHere’s a very easy method to defeat Apple and bring your bricked unlocked iPhone back from death. If you have an unlocked iPhone and you updated to firmware 1.1.1, you now can revive and bring all your third-party applications back by following these steps to restore firmware 1.0.2. This has been confirmed by the Dev Team, we are testing now live.[…] Thanks to yokozuka for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

returnofthemac: it’s good to see the same comments here as on every other post about 1.1.1 in the past 2+ weeks. What a bunch of pretentious asshats.

bluenash: maybe apple should take a page from google’s playbook: “Do no evil”

Blade2000: Suckers! Now you have to “downgrade” and lose some new features and patches/bug fixes. Why bother if you will not have the newest release?

insomniac8400: At least all of this proves apple purposely screwed the phones in software and that the locks weren’t accidental. I find it interesting that they are inviting a class action against them that if they lose affirms consumer rights, and if they win screws consumers over big time. No verdict will be good for apple.

genexyzration: Don’t downgrade. Upgrade is the way to go. Upgrade to your attorney telling that the recent update rendered your iphone useless when you needed it most. When it failed it resulted to: death, injury, pain, divorce, loss of money, repossessed house/car/truck, loss your girlfriend,accident on the road, unable to call police in an emergency. You pay for the service and you expect their service.

thequixotic: I know hacking the iPhone is jolly exciting, but it is called the i PHONE for a reason…
It’s like collecting your car from the garage and the guy saying “well, we still can’t get the engine working, but the radio and air-con are perfect!”

oosnoopy: The phone doesn’t work.

Yay for an overpriced function lacking PDA?

toetagger: I’m sorry… I’m really trying to give a shit about this but I just don’t.

jnadke: Hackers 1, Apple/AT&T 0

Come’on, you know Apple probably could’ve implemented the patch without messing with the EFI… they did it intentionally…

toetagger: Too soon to celebrate…

casual7y: I am so glad i’m too poor to have bought an iphone now haha

nave7693: Is this just me or does it really sound exactly like the whole affair with the PSP?

deVida: And in three days, the Jesus Phone rose again!

1ofMany: Isn’t it ironic that Steve Jobs was once a big time phone hacker (back in his college days) and is now out to punish the people that have hacked his phone…

shortarabguy: For a product that was touted as so user-friendly and easy to use, this sure does look like a bitch to get working.


iPhone 1.1.1 “bug” unleashes music over Bluetooth

September 29, 2007

FameMoneyThe iPhone 1.1.1 update has a hidden little surprise for y’all: Bluetooth audio streaming is now available off of your iPhone for whatever you darn please, meaning you can finally listen to music from the phone wirelessly.[…] Thanks to FameMoney for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

SquidProQuo: Any idea if the IPod Touch is going to get the same treatment? Or does it have Bluetoooth in it at all?

xandifenn: perfect for the iphone music app
http://seeqpod.com/iphone

llsethj: AOLEngadget are fuckers. They cut and paste an Apple insider story and publish it as their own then submit it to Digg.

kelchm: I don’t know that unleashes is exactly the right word to describe mono bluetooth audio.

kmotiv1: 1.1.1 fixed my screen “polka dots”. Everybody is bitching about all the things it locked down, but it definitely fixed a few items as well. I’m surprised that no one else mentioned this at all. We’re a bunch of whiny bastards.

pileofstraw: personally, I’ve never seen nor touch a iphone yet and for some reason, I’ll stick with my pager.

SirZRX: the iphone bluetooth chipset supports A2DP, but is capped by software…what a shame

p51d007: LMAO……….wait until apple and steve “blow” jobs pushes out another patch to take that away…..THEN charge you to
put it back in. Love him or hate him…he’s smart when it comes to marketing. Hell, he should have been a crack dealer.
GIVE it away to get you dumbasses hooked, then take it away and charge you out the ass for it.

colonels1020: Apple: “That’s not a bug, it’s a feature.”

GREEDOnvrFIRED: For crying out loud why do we constantly have to hear about the freaking iPhone. Oh because it is a compelling, ever changing piece of amazing technology that remains interesting even 3 months after its introduction? oh ok.

seahaven: this iphone story is disturbing me, we dont have it yet here in our country and it is always on digg….

fuxjoey: I thought bluetooth is not built-in. So how is it possible?

daxsymbiont: who fucking cares about iphone. a fucking 100 dollar motorola or nokia can play mp3s.

zmigliozzi: And everyone laughed at the zune for sharing music over bluetooth.

mikesbaker: wow apple finally got something you can do with most other new phones


Man has iMac replaced three times, emails Steve Jobs and gets a free iPod

September 29, 2007

muffinsincreamHe had his iMac replaced 2 and had a problem with the third. He decided to email Steve Jobs because of this and he gets a free iPod.[…] Thanks to muffinsincream for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

greenawlives: So how much was this blogger paid to write this “anecdote”?

idigit: God dammit, I had my iMac replaced twice (3 computers) and all I got was lip from the Apple support staff.

Oh well.

Bitaemo: Awwww, I wish my Macbook Pro would break so I can get a free Nano. 😦 Time to find Mr. Screwdriver!

bobnease: I love this! I’ve never had a bad experience with Apple Customer Service, and this tells me a lot about their company.

carl25: wait

so he didn’t get his imac back ?

chesss: Ahhh!
the joys being filthy rich..

StiGUP: “Seems Apple really does care about its customers a great deal. I think I’ve just fallen in love with a fruit ;).”

is he talking about the guy he talked to …or the apple itself?

jabberwolf: Anything to keep their small number of customers. Steve must be desperate.

mu0p: wait a minutes.

I have a $3000 dollar alienware paperweight that only lasted 1 year, and the company refused to upgrade my warranty when i called 2 days after my previous warrenty ended. How would I get the contact of the Head of Alienware to discuss my matters?

hayden.evans: ive gone through 3 iphones and ive gotten jack crap

qpdb: What was wrong with his imac?

sixlaneve: Can I have Jobs email? My iBook was replaced 4 times… I want a free iPod too!

vacuum2440: i’ve always had a great experience with apple…they have the best customer care and thats why their customers are so loyal. If I were to start a business I would try to emulate their business strategy in terms of customer service completely. Btw I’m from Canada so yea they still care about their customers from the North.

TunaFishGangsta: FYI, the “Steve Jobs’ email account” is monitored by a high-level customer support staff. That would be cool though if he was personally responding to people.

betojf: whatever, Apple screws ipod customers…. specially those that bought games