Macs on the network: Time to panic?

Mattman9876They’re coming. Gleaming all-in-ones, metallic slimline notebooks and hand-size “mini” machines. For network admins, the Macintosh has always been the purview of advertising agencies, entertainment companies, educators and home computer users. Mac OS X is merely a minor support issue in a Microsoft-dominated organization.[…] Thanks to Mattman9876 for providing this nice story on Digg.

What other users say about this:

ilgaz: They are counted as FreeBSD clients with Zeroconf capability carrying standard Unix services.
Why panic? That is purest TCP/IP IPV4 and IPV6, nothing else. No “worms”, no “stealth firewall” junk too.

stockjones: The number one problem with Apple in the Enterprise? Enterprise support. Steve Jobs, if I buy 300 Dells, I can get parts shipped to me direct, techs to your office for installs if needed etc.

Apple tech support. Go the the mall and stand in line at the Genius Bar. Jesus Christ Apple.

payrolldude: I used to be on the systems team for a support site. There were ~300 Macs and ~100 PCs. There were 4 of us on the systems team, I was the only Mac guy. I spent 1/2 of my time helping them with their issues. They worked nights and weekends. I did not.

Macfox: I bet the difference is more than that. I suspect there’s a lot more difference at the application level. OS support is easy in the main part for OSX or Windows, it the application support which is the difficult part.

dezent: im a network admin, use macbook pro 15″, 2.4ghz 4gig ram, debian style apt-get of open source tools
compilers and stuff from

No problems here.

Fryth: I work at a corporate helpdesk. There is resistance to Macs, but it’s management’s fear of diverting help desk resources to support them. Our IT guys are smart enough to know that Macs on the network don’t pose any risk. If you need a setting for Safari to get out of our proxy and onto the internet, I will happily provide it to you. However, I don’t know the details (or potential problems) of how Entourage connects with our Exchange server… that’s probably why they are usually told “we don’t support Macs”.

damm: Buried for Lame inaccurate propaganda.

Oh No! Entourage hasn’t been updated in years…

Oh and the firewall you have to pass special commands! OH NOES!

Fact, Mac out of the box has how many open TCP Ports? 0

May the propaganda machine go away and return with facts.

starmanjones: >Green did mention a few bugaboos, however, among his generally
>positive comments about the Mac. He said his group has seen more
>support issues related to the Cisco VPN for Mac than the version for
>Windows XP, although they have fewer support calls for the native VPN
>client for OS X.

i have an old wallstreet laptop- 300mhz running 10.4 with 190 megs of ram using a cisco aironet 350 pcmcia card using cisco software and its fine. this machine is so old it only has no USB ports. scsi only. 10 megabyte ethernet built in. in fact, currently its sub’ing as a wireless router using internet sharing in OS X and 10 or so machines are using it to access the internet. its not just doing email and surfing. its good for streaming video to several machines at once.

i installed the cisco software and it worked first time. its been running 24/7 for several weeks now with no crashes or other problems.

norcalscan: What kind of writing is this? ComputerWorld articles tend to troll for flames from Mac-fans. IT guys need to get more Apple training, and ComputerWorld writers need to go to writing school.

FTA “The fact that Microsoft hasn’t updated its Entourage client for the Mac in several years suggests that its OS X support is waning, although a new Office 2008 version for the Mac with a new e-mail client is due in January.”

starmanjones: i was the CTO and head netadmin for a large site. while we had users running windows the network proper was windows free. we used a mix of linux and mac servers which ran OS 9. we had exactly no problems ever using those two platforms.

why would we use a mac running OS 9? contrary to popular dogma OS 9 was plenty capable of high loads and OS 9 was really hack proof. it was the only way i could assure that database information was safe with no possibility of loss without someone walking in the front door an sitting down at the machines. . so we ran OS 9 using filemaker. we had not a single problem in years of use.

andybms: I’m getting my new iMac today! I’m a loooong time Windows user and developer doing the conversion! And, a former Microsoft employee. I bought the parallels software so i can migrate slowly. If I have any problems getting it on my home network, which I don’t expect to. I may be posting a question on this article.

BHopkins: I manage 850 Mac’s across 3 sites. Our windows people manage 350 machines at one site. That’s the difference. We both do the same thing, except I can do more than twice as much as they can, because we use Mac’s.

ghuytro: I work for a large newspaper company with total desktop computers in the neighborhood of around 1,500-2,000 computers in about 50 locations – all networked to the main corporate office over a secure WAN.

We’re about 50% split between Mac & PC.

We have 3 Mac Support Techs and about 25-30 PC techs.

xenixninja: The problem is first of all that everything that is not produced by Microsoft has an issue with Microsoft products, and the second issue is “admins” who know only Microsoft products.

dimplemonkey: Yes, please go panic and hire me to manage your Macs and integrate them securely to your PC dominated network. My consulting fees are reasonable!


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